The W.T.S. needs more DJeggs to uncover the faulty reasonings of local Bozo's COs and DOs, and some "know-it-all-elders", calling them on their man made traditions. If djegg is a Triple or Quadruple Agent, who is he truly working for? djegg, can you come to San Luis Obispo, California to reeducate the District Overseer, and stop by Fresno to teach the C.O. J.R. Allay Cat Alia how to explain the "Generation"? Keep up the posts, it invigorates some of the threads!
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I Have worked djeggnog out.
by smiddy inlooking back at the different subjects that have come up on jwn , the ones where our freind has really thrown his" support" for jw`s and the organization ,i have come to the conclusion that {he} is really a fifth coumnist ,a secret agent ,supposedly working for and supporting the jw`s but in reallity , secretly, helping those" in" to see the absurdity of following the wtb&ts by his answers/responses to posts challenging doctrines,interpretations,prophecys,new light,present understandings,so- on and so- on.
i think he`s taking the mickey out of us.i think he really is one of us helping lurkers set themselves free from watchtower bondage.
smiddy.
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I Have worked djeggnog out.
by smiddy inlooking back at the different subjects that have come up on jwn , the ones where our freind has really thrown his" support" for jw`s and the organization ,i have come to the conclusion that {he} is really a fifth coumnist ,a secret agent ,supposedly working for and supporting the jw`s but in reallity , secretly, helping those" in" to see the absurdity of following the wtb&ts by his answers/responses to posts challenging doctrines,interpretations,prophecys,new light,present understandings,so- on and so- on.
i think he`s taking the mickey out of us.i think he really is one of us helping lurkers set themselves free from watchtower bondage.
smiddy.
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The W.T.S. needs more DJeggs to uncover the faulty reasonings of local Bozo's COs and DOs, and some "know-it-all-elders", calling them on their man made traditions. If djegg is a Triple or Quadruple Agent, who is he truly working for? djegg, can you come to San Luis Obispo, California to reeducate the District Overseer, and stop by Fresno to teach the C.O. J.R. Allay Cat Alia how to explain the "Generation"? Keep up the posts, it invigorates some of the threads!
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Recipe book celebrity, beautiful Sandra Lee, brought up a JW. She talks about her "harrowing" childhood in Mar. 25th PARADE Magazine
by AndersonsInfo infound in the sunday newspaper supplement, parade, march 25, 2012, is an article, "what will sandra lee think of next?
" see page 10 of the parade magazine.
in the article it states:.
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@steve The message rings true, for a long list of crazy men and women who fill the seats of the Kingdom Halls. What the W.T.S. does to M.S. and Elders, is woefully inadaquate, creating a pressure cooker of personal, family and congregation problems waiting to blow up! The C.O.s and D.O.s are completely lost in "Wonderland", is it any wonder it has not imploded yet? If a person want's to put on weight, age ten years, become a servant or elder!
@Jameswood Where JWs in your day, quick to beg off from taking care of their family (Father, Mother, Siblings) in order to pursue the guiding light of the WTS? Corban is now common, and wordly people will come to help with JW parents, while their elder and pioneer kids shun them. I don't get it!
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Here's a "press release" written by an anonymous source that can be sent to the media about the thinner magazines
by AndersonsInfo inmarch 26, 2012. news item:.
jehovah's witnesses to reduce pages in watchtower & awake!
magazines.
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IF ONLY THEY HAD STUDIED THIS CHAPTER AND UNDERSTOOD THE MEANING! NIV
1 Corinthians 13
1 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,[b] but do not have love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
TITUS SCREAMS TO CHRISTIAN FREEDOM STEALING MEN
10 For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group. 11 They must be silenced, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach-and that for the sake of dishonest gain. 12 One of Crete's own prophets has said it: "Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons."[c] 13 This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith 14 and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth. 15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted. 16 They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.
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Was Hong Xiuquan the returned Christ for Rutherford!
by mP infirstly most of us in the west are not aware of this very interesting character.
a self proclaimed brother of christ who at one stage actually had many thousands and millions of followers in china only 150 years ago.
the interesting point is his movment was about the time rutherford was young and it did not completely disappear until the early 1900s.
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I can't follow your ideas on this thread, history is full of men who believed they were somebody special. The 1800s have lots of men who were aware of their spiritual needs, throughout the earth. Where did you come across this name, Sino-Tibetian history intrigues me. What do you know about ??? and Falun Gong?
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Is the Watchtower shy about repeating their new "generation" teaching?
by slimboyfat inas i recall in the 1980s talks and watchtower literature, magazines and books were always talking about the "generation" teaching and how it proved armageddon was going to come any day now.. but am i correct in thinking they have only actually mentioned the new "overlapping generations" teaching once or twice in the literature?
why are they so shy about talking about their great new interpretation?
it's almost enough to make you suspect they are a embarrassed about it.. mention it once or twice, don't dwell on it, hope everyone just accepts it, and don't bring it up again.
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djegg, are you considered a rebel in your congregation, have you been "Marked" by men afraid of your Bible knowledge and education?
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Is the Watchtower shy about repeating their new "generation" teaching?
by slimboyfat inas i recall in the 1980s talks and watchtower literature, magazines and books were always talking about the "generation" teaching and how it proved armageddon was going to come any day now.. but am i correct in thinking they have only actually mentioned the new "overlapping generations" teaching once or twice in the literature?
why are they so shy about talking about their great new interpretation?
it's almost enough to make you suspect they are a embarrassed about it.. mention it once or twice, don't dwell on it, hope everyone just accepts it, and don't bring it up again.
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@djeggnog: the "Freedom of Christian Conscience" is a foreign concept to weak christians who are still sucking on the utters of Momma Cow. A refreshing set of ideas you bring with you, that are not taught openly in meetings of publishers,elders, C.O.s. I will not allow another's conscience to control my spiritual freedom, so I am not afraid to ask questions from multipule sources.
This has been a long thread, but well worth the time spent reading it, trying to better understanding Bible interpretations, is not for the half hearted and weak. King Joash's example of his half hearted effort (2 Kings 13) by striking the ground only three times, instead striking with all his energy and without let up, failed to bring the desired result of God's favor. I hope you (DJegg) continue to strike the ground without let up, and don't allow anyone to steal, or impress your Christian freedom into their service.
I ended the previous thread on this subject, saying I thought this was a topic that was not going away (glad it did not!). I love these kind of threads, I wish Marvin Shilmer would post his thoughts, (drift away from his Blood expertise for a moment) to add his scholarly skills to Biblical subjects (unless he is an atheist?) of "This Generation" What a fun thread!
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An Apostate Twist Ending
by Terry inwhen charles taze russell, or judge rutherford, or fred franz published magazines, pamphlets and books about future matters.....the future they spoke about had not yet happened.
whatever they wrote could well be true.
what reasons they gave could be sound ones.
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@trueone The money appears to corrupt everyone who decides to lead a religion. Think of Jimmy Swaggart, Oral Roberts, Asa Alan, L.Ron Hubboard, Jimmy Bakers Billion dollar scam. If the Judge was using funds to further his personal pleasure, he deserves to go Gehenna!
The poster I was thinking of, seemed to use Terry's post as a launching pad for his Catholic or Reformist view, of who is allowed to preach the Bible and who is not. I can't agree C.T. Russell was trying to fleece the brethern, or was a incompetent Bible teacher. History of the Catholic Church and Reformist based religions have had their fair share of failed prophecy, crooks, swindlers and blood thirsty theology.
and I agree "a broken and ruined life, is a broken and ruined life" yet we as JWs were never told to slaughter another race, to wipe out a entire relgion or creed. The hatred as recent as Darfur, Serbs,Croats and Bosnians, Islam killings in Kenya, Uganda ects. Our bad teachers never asked us to kill another race, or sanctioned it.
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Quote from Giliad Graduation
by lostinthought inso loch made this gem of a quote on saturday: the "slave makes mistakes, truth is revealed progressivily.
our understanding changes and gets better" .
he also said that we know we have the "truth" because thousands are baptized but we should not only watch numbers..... ok, huge eye roll..
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"thousands are getting bapitized" as opposed to "Millions" in Islam? I don't understand his justification based off numbers, why bring it up, if you are not looking (fixated as most rabid ones are) all the new converts?
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Quote from Giliad Graduation
by lostinthought inso loch made this gem of a quote on saturday: the "slave makes mistakes, truth is revealed progressivily.
our understanding changes and gets better" .
he also said that we know we have the "truth" because thousands are baptized but we should not only watch numbers..... ok, huge eye roll..
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"thousands are getting bapitized" as opposed to "Millions" in Islam? I don't understand his justification based off numbers, why bring it up, if you are not looking (fixated as most rabid ones are) all the new converts?